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Chris Robbins is senior counsel and director of Robbins Equitas. He is a former federal judicial law clerk to the Honorable Tu M. Pham, United States Magistrate Judge. Robbins is a cum laude graduate of the University of Miami School of Law, where he was a member of the University of Miami Business Law Review. Robbins currently serves on both the admiralty and aviation law committees of The Florida Bar. Robbins is a writer, an instrument rated airplane pilot, and a public speaker. He recently prepared a lecture series for Chinese students on subjects including law, American democracy, and entrepreneurship. Robbins' articles have been published widely in the U.S. and international press. His work has appeared in the New York Times, Miami Herald, Hong Kong Apple Daily, Tampa Tribune, and other periodicals. American Revolutionary History and Early U.S. Law and GovernmentA Lecture Presented by Chris Robbins at Hengyang University, Hunan Province, Hengyang, China May 9, 2007 Professor: Good evening. Tonight we are very honored to have with us J. Christopher Robbins. He will be speaking on the subject of American history during the revolutionary era. Some of you heard his lecture yesterday on entrepreneurship. What you did not know is that in addition to being a lawyer in the United States, Chris is a professional writer who knows a great deal about American history and government. He studied this subject for four years at the University of Pennsylvania, where he graduated in 1997. Since then, Chris has written extensively about American politics, business, and history. He has had articles published in the U.S. and in other countries. One of his articles-about China’s death penalty-was published in the Hong Kong Apple Daily. Tonight, Chris is going to speak about American government. Robbins: Thank you. Thank you so much. It is an honor to be here in Hengyan in Hunan Province. This is a great opportunity for me to be able to come all the way from the U.S. to talk to you about my country’s history. So much has happened in the last 20 years between our countries. My presence tonight simply would not have been possible until recently. The relationship between China and the United States is strong. China and the United States are one of biggest trading partners in the word. Billions of dollars of goods and services cross between our borders. It is a wonderful thing. That was the subjects of yesterday’s lecture. Indeed, there were relatively few people in the United States before the 17th century. In fact, even as late as the early eighteenth century, there were only 1.5 million people.[1] Can you imagine 1.5 million compared to the population of China?[2] Yes, a whole country not much larger than your city. Other explorers to this new land soon followed mostly from Spain, France, Italy, and England. These included John Cabot,[5] Amerigo Vespucci,[6] Juan Ponce de León,[7] Hernando de Soto,[8] Giovanni da Verrazano,[9] Jacques Cartier,[10] Francisco Vásquez de Coronado,[11] Walter Raleigh,[12] and Henry Hudson.[13] But there were countless other men, too. All of these men had different motives. Some sought new worlds and new opportunities. Why did they come?Think back to the seventeenth century. This is the time when some Europeans were beginning to make the decision to relocate to settlements in America. And before long, they flooded in. The population of the U.S., excluding native populations, was a scant 250,000 around the turn of the Eighteenth Century. By 1776, it was 2.5 million.[19] The trip to the new world involved crossing an ocean. And this fact alone was enough to keep the feet of most Europeans planted firmly on the ground. At its worst, however, sea travel was unpredictable and deadly. Accurate weather, wind and surf forecasts were non-existent in the 1600s. And while the mercury barometer was invented in 1643,[22] mariners did not widely use or understand this instrument until nearly two centuries later.[23] Thus, every voyage away from shore was a passage into an abyss. The only current analogy to a voyage by ship to the new world in the 1600s would be a trip to moon. It was a venture into the unknown, and one that every voyager would have to make his peace with prior to departure. Those boarding vessels en route to the new world in the 1600s were playing dice with their lives. Indeed, tens of thousands of men and women died at sea en route to the new word. So I should point out that in the U.S., many of our early ancestors deserve great credit for their bravery. This group endured war against France,[29] a long and bloody civil war,[30] many years of martial law and the use of Star Chamber,[31] an autocratic king, the dissolution of their Parliament and despotic rule,[32] and oppression of religious minorities.[33] Making life worse for this generation was a resurgence of the bubonic plague which killed 16% of the population of London[34] And for those unlucky enough to live in London, the plague, was followed by a fire a year later that consumed two-thirds of the city.[35] While somewhat improved compared to other ages, it was a dark time indeed. In 1650, life expectancy for an Englishman was 37 years. About 18% of infants died within the first year of their lives. Only 69% of children made it to their fifteenth birthday. Living conditions were dismal for most. This existence was close to one of “continual fear, and danger of violent death; and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.”[36] As it turns out, the statistics by which we measure human health were not better in the new world. Often, they were much worse. But those fleeing Europe didn’t know that. Even if they did, it is the numbers that measure human happiness that count. Let’s discuss this point. When they arrived, they were usually free from restrictions and oppression they left behind in Europe. It was an opportunity to start fresh. Indeed, the arrival of many early colonist coincided exactly with the run-up to the English civil war. It is therefore easy to imagine that they sought the same limits on government, human rights, and freedom of action their counterparts in Parliament sought, but could not attain.[37] As a convenience to Colonists, however, the obstacles of distance and time made control and governance of new world communities by the crown unwieldy, if not impossible. And while there was no movement towards secession from England until much later, the pattern of life in America was following - sometimes wittingly, usually unwittingly - the counsel of a new breed of political philosopher. A very famous one was John Locke who lived between 1632 and 1704. Locke wrote that all of mankind is “equal and independent. No one should harm another in his life, health, liberty or possessions...”[38] Don’t forget the name John Locke. I might ask you if you see any parallels between what he said and what happens next in our story. In Massachusetts, the Puritans operated under a charter that granted to the Massachusetts General Court[39] the authority to elect officers and to make laws for the colony. Although it had a rocky beginning, in 1634 it provided for elected leadership. In the same year, the settlers of Maryland St. Mary’s City formed an elected General Assembly of freeman. Fifteen years later, the assembly would enact the first measure formally allowing people of varied faiths to freely worship in the territory. In 1636, excommunicates from the Massachusetts Bay Colony[40] settled in what would later become Rhode Island. They set up a democratic government under the Portsmouth Compact two years later. The subsequent crown-chartered colony came later. Established in 1663 it also permitted landowners to vote for their leadership. By 1650, many of the 50,000 or so settlers in America - at least the ones who were not still indentured - were living as free men under democratic governments, Most still lived in Virginia or Massachusetts. By 1700, after the arrival of another 200,000 colonists,[41] nearly early every colony in the future United States has an elected form of government, and one with real and not titular authority. There were still governors, and often ones with significant ruling authority. But this power was checked by elected bodies, just like Parliament. One theory is that the crown never intended to be an absentee landlord. It just so happened that the time that saw the development of democratic institutions in the colonies conveniently coincided with war in England, attacks by the Irish and Scottish antagonists, various internal battles over succession to the throne, and a downturn in the fortunes of the royal treasury. Much to the misfortune of colonists, the distractions mostly ceased in 1713, when a peace treaty ended another decade of war and turmoil,[43] after Scotland laid down its arms and joined the United Kingdom,[44] and after a male heir, George I, ascended to the throne and left no remaining doubts over who controlled the government. England now had the time and inclination to turn its attention to its affairs in the colonies. England had its reasons for increasing its control in the Colonies. Following the conclusion of the French and Indian War, many thought the colonists should pay their part of the bill for the conflict. It was, after all, fought largely on their soil and for their protection. Britain also wanted the colonies to contribute money and pay more and more taxes and other obligations. British restrictions starting taking shape in the mid-1700s. Among the things that the British did was, beginning in 1763, taxing various colonial interests and goods. They taxed molasses, which was the central products of the colonies. They also taxed publications and legal documents in what was called The Stamp Tax so that every time you bought a newspaper, you had to pay money to the British government across the ocean, thousands of miles away. The colonies thought of these acts as censorship. They also set up prohibitions on westward expansion and their ability to print their own currency. So after 160 years of little or no supervision and unregulated growth and a frontier spirit and the development of democratic institutions, the British step in and change the rules. As restrictions increase, so did colonial opposition. Influential colonial leaders, including Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, and John Adams, started speaking and writing about the predicament. In time, opponents to British policy organized. One central rallying point was that the colonist were freeman with all of the privileges and rights of English subjects. And one of those rights was representatives in English parliament. Parliament in England is the democratic or elected group, but the colonists were not able to send their own people to Parliament. And since the crown and Parliament were imposing laws on the colonists without giving them an opportunity to vote in Parliamentary elections, these provisions were of dubious validity. Next, they took away trial by jury in some areas and they imposed new taxes in 1773. And they started treating the Americans like rebels. And that is pretty much what they got. In 1774, the Americans met at the First Continental Congress. This was a meeting at which influential leaders for the various colonies met. The objective of the meeting was not to pour salt upon the wounds of British-colonial relationship. It was not yet a rebellion. The purpose of the meeting was to talk about how to fix the problems and perhaps patch the relationship. King George III probably could have compromised. When the colonists started getting very, very passionate in their demands, he likely could have come to a resolution by which America still might be part of England. But the King was stubborn. There was no compromise and in 1776, diplomacy looked out of the question. In January of 1776, a writer in Philadelphia, Thomas Paine, wrote a book. Thomas Paine wrote that a self-sufficient, independent republic is necessary - that there should be a break with England. His verse was passionate. He urged the people of the United States to break their ties and become an independent nation. While Paine cannot be credited with causing revolution, he was one of the most poignant supports of the time. And his work marks the beginning of a torrent of political commentary on the subject. Prelude to warThe movement turned from words to action six months later. On June 7, 1776, Richard Lee of Virginia introduced a resolution for the Continental Congress. In the resolution, he said wrote: “Resolved: That these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States, that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain is, and ought to be, totally dissolved.” On July 4, 1776, only one month later, after extensive deliberations and meetings by the founding fathers of the United States, Thomas Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence. The United States is a country which has largely framed and memorialized its values in written documents. And the next document is perhaps the most well-known and powerful statement of the rights of men in history. In the Declaration, Thomas Jefferson wrote: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.” Now, who here remembers the name of the man I mentioned earlier in this lecture who wrote similar words? Any hands? Correct, that was John Locke. On July 4, 1776, John Hancock was the first man to ink his commitment - and his life, fortune, and sacred honor - to U.S. independence.[47] I want to point out that when his signature dried on the Declaration he probably knew he would die either a hero or a criminal.[48] Male traitors in Britain were hanged, drawn, and quartered. Looking around this lecture hall tonight I wonder how many of us would have the courage to die for the cause of freedom if it were necessary? I am not going to ask for a show of hands. The Government We FormedSince this is a story to which nearly everyone knows the ending, I am going to fast-forward. Most of you know that there was war. That the American’s almost lost. That after many defeats, and hard winters, starvation, and even soldiers without shoes—the army was so poorly supplied, they pulled through. This is largely due to the leadership of General George Washington and with special thanks to the French for joining the war on the Americans’ side. Let’s talk about the government that was created. The first unified U.S. After months of deliberation in hot and humid Philadelphia, a plan emerged. The government created is a very complicated one, but it is also elegant. As an attorney and a writer, I have long noticed that one of the most elegant aspects of our system in the United States is that it is nearly impossible for the government to do much quickly of efficiently. Some in my country criticize this and blame our leadership. But I think this was by intentional design. Remember our founders’ experience prior to the Declaration. The Bill of RightsBut even this carefully planned system was not enough to satisfy some founders. The Constitution is a blueprint for the operation of a government. This Bill of Rights memorializes various other essential human freedoms in relation to their governments. These include freedom of religion, speech, the press, and peaceable assembly, the right to keep and bear arms, the protection of your property from forced interference by the army (Quartering of troops was the concern at the time), protection from unreasonable search and seizure, the right to trial by jury, and freedom from cruel and unusual punishment in criminal proceedings. I recommend you read this document. Two sovereignsAfter all this time discussing the complexities of the United States federal government, you might expect me to be just about finished. I am not. I have only explained half of it. In the U.S., we have two sovereigns. The federal government is one. The fifty states constitute the others. A citizen of New York City, for example, is a resident of New York States. New York State has its own laws, courts, and governor. It is not too unlike your provincial system. But unlike China’s system, where the central government always wields the greater authority, in the U.S. certain issues are the traditional prerogative of states, not the federal government. Such issues include chartering of corporations, marriage and families, the handling of elections, regulation of and titles to real estate, regulation of alcohol, governance of most professional occupations, and much more. The state governments have their own elected legislatures, their own governors, and their own courts. ConclusionNo system is perfect. But the U.S. system of government has the advantage of having learned from the mistakes of those nations we emigrated from, particularly Britain. When the founders of the U.S. had the opportunity to start anew, they sought to build a just society and a just government. But they also sought to curtail the government’s powers and make it impossible, or at least very unlikely, for the abuses they knew too well in Europe. Question & Answer Session(This is a composite of questions from several lectures) Professor: Thank you Chris. Mr. Robbins is now going to take questions. Robbins: I already have two questions from the earlier lecture that I did not have time to answer. I will start with them and I look forward to reading your other ones today. Please also feel free to write your email addresses on your questions so that if I do not have time to get to them, I can answer them later in the week. Question: In China sometimes we have to have special relationships with the government to get what we want for our business. Is this common in the United States also? Answer: That is a very good question. I know something about business practices in China. The current situation is nothing new. While bribery is not always the norm, there is great historical precedence, going back to the Emperors, of what we would describe in the United States as irregular government involvement. Money changes hands. While the United States is not perfect, it is far different in my country. Bribes, “gratuities,” and “squeeze” is illegal in the United States. Both businessmen and government employees face long prison sentences if they give or accept bribes. While I will not tell you that every civil servant in the U.S. is infallible, we have a strong preference for transparency and honesty. Our laws even apply this tradition when our companies transact business in China or other nations. A law called the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act[50] and the International Anti-Bribery Act even prevent U.S. businessmen from bribery when they are operating in China and other countries. And at home “greasing the wheels” is strictly prohibited. When you do business in the United States, there are no gratuities, there are no bribes, there is no way to gain advantage with the government. The good news is that you don’t need this type of influence. In the US, as in all truly free societies, the government has very little part in business. Most industries are only very lightly regulated, if at all. So you probably don’t need the government and you therefore don’t need to gain influence with them. But anti-corruption efforts are not enough. Governments, whether communist or capitalist, need boundaries. Everyone has a right to know where these boundaries are. Right now, China has robust regulatory power at both the national and provincial levels, but who knows where these powers begin or end? How do you stay within the confines of business regulations if they are not always written down? If you do not know which agencies or bureaucrats have the right to enforce them? There is great muddiness currently. This deserves its own lecture, I am afraid. Thanks for your question. Question: “What do you think of the current relationship - and the future prospective - between China and the US.” I am so glad to have the opportunity to answer that question. Relationships are everything. Business is not just about money, but about people. As I said earlier, this is really, in many ways, a dream come true; not just for me but for everyone. The dream is free exchange of ideas among people and it just wasn’t possible not too long ago. I think the current relationship among people and businesses is and will remain very strong. I think the current relationship between governments, however, is not strong enough, but will become stronger with time. But while our people are content to do business with one another, there are very real differences of opinion between our governments. And while that is a lecture for another day, there, too, I see constant improvement. This is not the China of our childhoods. It is not even the china that I visited just a few years ago. Let’s hope that the prospects are indeed excellent. Question: “How did the American economy develop so quickly?”I will assume you left off three words: “Compared to China.” And if this is so, the question is amusing because the rest of the world is marveling at China and wondering how China’s economy has developed so quickly, compared to the rest of the world. In any event, whether you are considering the case of America or China, the answer is the same. Development depends upon several key factors. They are the same everywhere. They work together in a formula I have made up. D (Total Net Development) = [(N)(E)(I)](F) “N” stands for natural resources, such as minerals, petroleum, fish and wildlife, and forests. These are the raw materials of industry. But while they contribute greatly to economic development, there can still be significant development without them. Look at Japan. “E” is a country’s education, and includes the sophistication of its teachers, the access citizens have to schools and universities, and the existence of an ethic that puts a high value on near universal education - an intelligent populace - and is able to execute on that objective. “I” stands for infrastructure. To become a world economic superpower, a nation must have world class infrastructure, such as highways, canals, water systems, public waste treatment facilities, airports, and ports. Infrastructure serves not only export commerce but the quality of life of citizens. So it therefore must also mean good hospitals, public parks, and clean streets. Question: “What does the role of law play in the economic development of the U.S.?” This question is what we call a “softball” in the U.S. - a question that gives me an opportunity to talk about something I am comfortable with. Question: “What do you think of the U.S. Declaration of Independence? Do you think it is still applicable to today’s society?” I think I already covered this. This document is applicable. It is timeless. I think that whenever you are dealing with such basic questions - what rights do human being have? Where do these rights come from? To what extent can other human beings take them away? - I think the answers to these questions are timeless, immutable, and ever-relevant, especially when the worldview of a document like the Declaration is challenged. Question: “How do you vote for your president? Does everyone have the right to vote?” Yes. Everyone over 18 years old can vote. On election day, which is every four years for president, we all go to assigned “polling places.” These are locations usually run by volunteers. Question: “What do you think of the two-party system in the U.S. and the supervision system in China? We have one party as a leading party and it is the communist party. Many other parties involved in supervision.” Well, first of all, we don’t have a two-party system. That’s a myth. We have many parties. But two are dominant. I’ll point out that several times in the last 100 years there have been third party candidates. But the last time a third party presidential candidate received more votes than a democrat or republic was 1912, Theodore Roosevelt. Since then, there have been other third-party candidates, such as Ross Perot and Ralph Nader. And sometimes their parties are very powerful. But they are not dominant. As to the second part of your question, I do not think I should answer it right now. Question: “What’s your opinion of the policies of the Bush government?” I’ve been asked this question all throughout my travels, and even in my own country. I generally support the president. And while I know there is some controversy over the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, I remember one operative fact: the government’s objective after 9/11 was to prevent another 9/11. Hardly. Are any of us? Question: “Do you have a period of history in the U.S. that you hate the most?” I don’t like suffering, so any period involving warfare. The most brutal in our country’s history was the U.S. Civil war, 1861 to 1865. 625,000 men died, more than even in World War Two. But such suffering does not even begin to compare to the suffering experienced in Asia this century. I will not discuss this further. Question: “As a lawyer, how can you defend a man you know to be guilty?” Having seen several Chinese court cases, this is an understandable question. The theory is that the government has the burden of proof. And in practice, the government is indeed like a freight train. It will level everything it rolls over, unless something can stop it. That something is an attorney, whose job it is to defense the accused and ensure that the government proves its case beyond a reasonable doubt. Question: “What’s the situation of racial discrimination now?”Before I answer, I want to point that U.S. treatment of minorities has been an issue raised for decades by educators in China and in the former Soviet Union. The message being sent was that we are no example for the world - we are hardly civilized at home. This is simply not the case. While the U.S. has had an embarrassing legacy with civil rights, I submit that like the other liberal democracies - Canada, the U.K., Australia - people get along with one another better in the U.S. than anywhere else. Are there still examples of racism? Yes, of course. Are there in China? Well, this is a subject I am not permitted to speak about so I will conclude there. Question: “So many Americans have cars, as I understand it. This is such a controversial topic, it would not be useful to discuss it at any length. You can research this on the internet. I suggest looking at photographs of our cities and national parks, reviewing at emissions data and our laws, and then comparing us to the rest of the world. Question: “What the next century going to bring for the U.S. in youropinion” Good. The U.S. is very consistent, because of the N, E, I, and F factors. But I am a little concerned about the “E” factor, education. It seems that we spend a tremendous percentage of our nation’s wealth on education, but we are simply not getting a large enough return. China does far better with far less capital. Thank you again for coming tonight. You can email other questions to me at This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it . Click here to go to the first lecture in this series [1] 1760 U.S. Census. [2] About .1% of China’s population today. [3] While the basic invention of a Compass needle floating in a bowl of water was Chinese, Europeans made the device more reliable. By the Fifteenth Century, model were sold in which a compass-card was seated in a box frame with a dry pivot needle. By the year of Columbus’ voyage, navigators had developed requisite skill and experience in the use of these navigational aids aboard ships and the art of chart making was fast turning into a reliable practice, too. [4] Two of the three ships Columbus sailed in, the Nina and the Pinta, were Caravels which probably represented the very height of shipbuilding technology at the time And there had been other significant advances in the overall seaworthiness of sailing vessels at this time, too, including advances in rigging, waterproofing, sailcloth, deck planking, and hull reinforcement. [5] Born Giovanni Caboto, Italian, his major explorations occurred during the 1490s. [6] Italian, his major explorations occurred in 1497, 1499, and 1502. [7] Spanish, his major exploration occurred in 1510s. [8] Spanish, one of the most successful pioneers, whose explorations spanned from 1514 to 1542. [9] Italian, his major explorations occurred during the 1520s. [10] French, his major explorations occurred during the 1530s and 1540s. [11] Spanish, his major explorations occurred in the 1540s. [12] English, his major exploration occurred in the 1580s. [13] English, his major explorations occurred during the turn of the seventeenth century 1600s. [14] 1607 by the English. The first Virginia settlement was Roanoke Island in 1584, but this community was unsuccessful and most of its inhabitants mysteriously disappeared. [15] 1620 by Puritans from England. A group from an earlier settlement, Popham Colony, arrived in 1607, but this settlement was abandoned. [16] 1613 by the Dutch. [17] 1634 by Catholics from England. [18] 1629 by Puritans. [19] It should be noted that before 1820, precise population figures are always estimates. One statistic is not in dispute, however: about 50,000 of the new world’s residents, or about 2%, were British convicts who had been relocated to the new world as part of their prison sentences. [20] So-called seats of easement, piss-dales, and other early marine heads were not standard equipment on even some Naval vessels until the mid-1600s. It is probable that amenities only recently available to Royal Navy officers would not find their way into common usage until later. http://txspace.tamu.edu/bitstream/1969.1/3765/1/etd-tamu-2006A-ANTH- Flynn.pdf. [21] The Mayflower required 63 days to cross, and this was considered a quick passage at the time. [22] By Evangelista Torricelli. [23] In fact, it took two centuries and the development of the compact aneroid barometer (using a spring balance instead of a liquid) by French scientist Lucien Vidie in 1843 before they were common (and soon after required) equipment on ocean-going vessels. See, e.g., http://www.barometer.ws/history.html.) [24] By John Harrison 1693-1776. [25] While acceptance of the Chronometer was much quicker than the barometer, the inventor and the technology faced several decades of unwarranted skepticism by both mariners and politicians until, in 1773, King George III intervened. Still, due largely to prices, it was not until the turn of the next century that ocean-going sailing ships would be expected to have an accurate ship’s chronometer, and thus a way to accurately estimate longitudinal position. [26] The rudimentary sextant was called a cross staff. Another device of the day was the astrolabe. Sextants and octants, with their intricate optics, were not available yet. [27] http://www.britishbattles.com/spanish-war/spanish-armada.htm. [28] See e.g., http://txspace.tamu.edu/bitstream/1969.1/3765/1/etd-tamu- 2006A-ANTH-Flynn.pdf at page 108. [29] 1627. [30] 1642 (commenced). [31] Star Chamber Court sessions were held in secret, with no indictments, no right of appeal, no juries, and no witnesses. [32] 1629. [33] 1637-8. [34] 1665. It started in 1657 in Italy, struck France in the 1660s, Holland in 1663, Austria and Germany in the 1670s. [35] 1666. [36] Leviathan, 1651, Hobbes, Thomas, xiii. [37] The establishment of both the Massachusetts Bay Colony and the St. [38] Two Treatises Of Government, John Locke, Chap. ii. [39] Eventually to be become the state’s legislature. [40] Including Roger Williams and Anne Hutchinson. [41] http://merrill.olm.net/mdocs/pop/colonies/colonies.htm. [42] Philosophiae Naturalis Principia Mathematica, 1687. [43] The Treaty of Utrecht. [44] 1707. [45] Quod principi placuit, legis habet vigorem, literally, “the will of the prince has the force of law.” [46] Quod omnes tangit omnem approbatur, literally “what touches all must be approved by all,” a principle dating back to the days of Magna Carta. [47] Most of the 56 signers did not sign until August 2, 1776, after New York State ratified the Declaration of Independence. [48] In fact, various accounts indicate that he and Benjamin Franklin joked about going to the gallows on August 2 with Hancock stating that “Gentlemen, we must be unanimous; there must be no pulling different ways; we must all hang together.” Franklin replied, “Yes, we must indeed all hang together or most assuredly we shall all hang separately.” [49] Attributed to a speech in the House of Commons on November 11, 1947. The author did not verify this source, and several other sources indicate the speech might have been earlier. [50] 15 U.S.C. §§ 78dd-1, et seq. |
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